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Captain Walker

Proof positive that I speak in a foreign language.

english, language, meaning, stupidity, thought, words

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This is England. They speak English over here. It is the national language. I live in England. I grew up speaking English in another land. It is my only language. I then spend over 30 years living in England speaking the English I knew from another land (that was an English colony), but learned some refinements.

Whether or not you agree our Fat Disclaimer applies

So naturally I can assume that when I speak English, people in England should understand what I’m saying. Okay – so that’s the general position. I know that not ‘everybody‘ in England speaks English! Most people understand the English words I use. But a significant proportion seem not to understand the meanings I am hoping to transmit. Hold on – calm down – at times when I’m misunderstood, I was not using a vocabulary or sentence structure that is complex. Some fool wants some examples. I’m not giving every example over the years. In the week of 12th April, I had two classics – and today 24th April, another one.

It’s my record of ‘life’ – the life I live. Maybe long after I’m ‘gone’, someone will pick up on this ‘life’ I struggle with. [This does not mean I’m suicidal FFS!! ?]

Example 1

This one is a conversation by email.

CW: I request full details on what exactly is a [ABC] and any relevant procedural rules relevant to such examinations in general.

Rep1: Thank you for your email below, once the Person X contacts the [organisation] they can confirm who can attend the [ABC].

CW: I note that my request >> I request full details on what exactly is a [ABC]  and any relevant procedural rules relevant to such examinations in general.
<< – has been ignored. It is not rude to suggest that you read emails properly and respond properly. [In England, being assertive is often taken as bullying! So one always needs to be apologetic with ‘No disrespect’ or ‘I don’t mean to be rude’ etc to reduce the probability of such complaints.]

Rep1: Apologies if I missed your details in your email.  The [ABC]  is an ABC conducted by Person X. This is conducted independently and was requested on behalf of Mr B by the lawyer for this case. [Thoughts not expressed: You fool! You’re apologising for wasting my time due to your bledy incompetence. I want 5 min of my life back! Then you give me information that was already known and not the information I requested! Still I have not been supplied with what I’ve asked for. WTF!]

CW: This is not an answer to my request. How can I write the [head of operations] seeking the information I require?

Cutting a long story short, I then get an email from a ‘head of operations’ giving some information on the rules. The email contained a trail between Rep1 and the head.

Example 2

Again cutting a long story short, I ask for assessment of ‘capacity to manage financial affairs‘. What do I get back by email. The ‘capacity to request interim appointeeship.‘ But this one started off with a live face to face conversation in the same room. I even explained what the breadth and depth of ‘capacity to manage financial affairs‘ might involve.  The individual said they understood. What I got back was sent by email. Did I ask about ‘request’? Jeez. I’m sure I’m speaking a foreign language.

Some fools don’t get it. It is the difference between capacity to sell fruit and the capacity to request bananas! And they still won’t get it.  You do not need to be a ‘mental health professional’ to understand any of this. But.. but… people will still say ‘I’m not a mental health professional‘. In this example even when there is a live conversation in the same room and I’m told that I’m understood, obviously I am not!

Example 3

This one is brief,  about someone about to enter discussions for a project spanning two years.

Person X:  …next 2 hours discussing year long project for final module of XXX! 2 years early to prepare.

CW: ..have some ideas what you might do for the project?

Person X: I never plan … Waiting to finish this tutorial to decide.

CW: I wondered about ‘ideas’ not ‘plans’.

Person X: I did not plan ideas

And from this sort of thing one can end up in an endless debate about the difference between ‘ideas’ and ‘plans’. Some believe that ideas are plans. I’d have no doubt that ‘plans’ involve a group of ideas usually sequenced for some intended outcome. I think that an idea is not a plan – and I don’t care if Professor BigBod says differently.  I might have an idea that ‘I want to stab you in the neck!‘ That doesn’t mean I have a plan to stab you in the neck! Got it? Obviously not! The words ‘might do’ is obviously not an inquiry about a plan – instead an inquiry about rough ideas. But I’ll be told ‘not necessarily’ or ‘it depends’. I know the spiel.

What does it mean

I am so uninterested in what all this means to anybody else. ‘Anybody else’ was not there! ‘Anybody’ does not know the context. I alone know. Words on a page are quite often devoid of context. I’m not at liberty to paint full context here in any of the examples. Somebody is likely to go ‘To be fair, maybe English wasn’t their first language!‘ Oh – I so know that one. People actually jump to the rescue of fools with all sorts of possible explanations. As I said, ‘you weren’t there!’ I was there. I know that the first language of these people is English. Then to rescue fools, people go, “Well maybe they had a learning disability… No need to be so harsh!” Oh – so that means I’m supposed to ask people before any conversation, “Are you suffering with a learning disability today?” What a loadah utter horse manure that would be!

But even without context this is about words. It requires no ‘high level’ understanding at all.

If I use words of ordinary English in emails or in live conversation and people do not understand, the first thing I need to consider is whether I’m speaking a language ‘they don’t understand’. I have always assumed that living in England, I am of right to assume that other persons who purport to speak English might actually understand English! But no the examples above (and I have more that are very similar), means that I cannot make that assumption.

Conclusion

From here on I will assume that anything I say in English will not be understood by other persons I assume to be speaking English.

I’m not going to be asking “Do you speak English?” or “Is English your first language?” – else I might be accused of condescending behaviour, racism or bullying.

Disclaimer & Guidance

The reading of posts on this blog is subject to the Terms & Conditions. Unpalatable truths and personal experiences may be told. Nothing posted on this blog is directed at any identified person. On occasions individuals are quoted anonymously. That does not mean that they have been identified to the world. Should any person or organisation reading this blog find something that makes them feel or know that they  are being referred to – any such perceived identification does not mean ‘identified to the world’. ‘Stupid‘ is an impish figment of my imagination who occasionally is allowed to pop up – and does not represent any known individual, individuals or groups. The treatment of  ‘Stupid‘ is not representative of the way people are treated in real life. Adverse inferences made are dismissed in advance.